Since I have been working in a horse barn, I have not been cold at all. I usually take off my coat within the first half hour. I am constantly moving, so I have found that I stay pretty warm, until today. It never got that warm out, and I had to keep my coat on all day, which didn't seem to help. I had to take my coat off once, to wash a horse's tail, but realized that it was too cold to continue washing horse tails. Even though there is hot water in the wash rack, when it gets too cold out, hot water doesn't make a difference, it only seems to keep your hands warm!
I have also come to realize that my boots are no longer waterproof, so I will have to spray waterproof stuff on them again. It has been about 3 years since I've done that, and water is definitely getting inside! The only time I am in the wash rack right now, is when I have to wash tails and rinse off a sweaty horse, which isn't happening too much right now. But I know when the trainer's get back from U.S. Nationals, I will be in the wash rack a lot. So I will definitely need to spray those boots! I do have a pair of Columbia waterproof boots, but they don't have a hard toe, and some of those horses move around a lot in the wash rack, so I don't feel that comfortable wearing those around the horses. I have ended up with some wet socks in my boots, and that does not help when I am already cold. We do have a boot dryer at home, which is a necessity. I just throw my boots on the dryer, and within a couple hours, the insides are completely dry.
My expensive Ariat gloves that I absolutely love, ripped a seam in the thumb today. So my thumb kept poking out. I actually hate wearing gloves around horses, especially trying to take blankets on and off, and putting boots on or taking them off. Although I do wear them when I turn a horse out into the arena, I have had too many horses try to rip the lead rope out of my hands, which have resulted in rope burns. But when the temperatures really start to drop, I will need gloves. I am very picky about gloves, they must be very fitted to my hand, if they are too bulky, I can't function. Seriously!
The coat I wear is lighter weight, but it is rated for -20 degrees, which I don't really think is true. It does have a hood, which I need, and is waterproof, or used to be. I think the rain is seeping through now. So I am going shopping for a new barn coat this weekend. I must have waterproof, must be warm, must be comfortable and must have a hood. I was thinking of a ski coat. Hopefully I can find something to fit. I have a hard time getting coats to fit me, I usually can't fit in a womans small, and a extra small is just too small, the sleeves aren't long enough for my long, skinny arms.
My Columbia fleece zip-ups have been a life saver. Once I take my coat off, I have my fleece already on over a long sleeve t-shirt and a tank top. I have to wear a belt now with all the bending that I do, my jeans aren't wanting to stay put. Plus with me being so skinny, I don't have much of a butt or hips, so yep, that belt is a must wear!
I just bought some new boot socks, they are tall, but aren't that warm. I couldn't find any good ones for the winter. My OH stopped somewhere today, and picked up 4 pairs of boot socks for me, that are supposed to be warm. They are in the dryer right now, so I'll try a pair tomorrow.
When I am at home working my horses this time of year, I am only out for a couple hours. So I don't really get that cold. But I am working in a barn for 9-10 hours a day, so that is different then just going out to work one of my horses.
We all know how cold a barn gets in the winter. They seem to be colder inside then outside. So when the temps start to drop into the 20's and 30's, I will probably freeze my skinny butt off. What I would like for you guys to tell me is, what do you wear to the barn? Is there anything in particular that you must wear to keep warm? Any product suggestions? Has anyone found warm boot socks? How about keeping your feet dry? Any good fitting, warm gloves? Any recommended spray on waterproofing for boots? Anything you can help me with staying dry and warm would be greatly appreciated!! I am not a newbie to barn life, but I am a newbie to working in a barn full time!!
Wednesday, October 28, 2009
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I would suggest going to a store that caters to outdoors people/hunters.
I had a pair of columbia boots that lasted forever. They finally cracked and I had to throw them out. I like the gloves with the rubber waterproof palms. They are thin enough to do up blankets and boots but water proof so no getting fingers soaked. Layering is essential. Buy a large jacket because indeed the sleeves are long enough (we have the same build I totally know) If you have leaky bits on your boots such as where the top of the boot meets the sole get this stuff called "shoe goo" you can probably get it at your hardware store. Works great. You can get those hand warmer things from the dollar store. You move the stuff around inside and they stay warm all day. At costco you can buy a HUGE box for like 10$. Invaluable. Also never wear polyester. Polyester makes you sweat more. Especially socks. Always buy/wear cotton or wool.
You can buy sock liners that are thermal(they look like they have silver threads running through them . I know where you are is humid so I may not be much help , we get really cold ,but its dry cold. Carharrt make lined jeans or overalls they are a little stiff but they keep your low back warm .Carrharrt(sp?) jackets too are awesome (but not waterproof)layers is your best bet , treat it like skiing, silk or cotton close to your skin to wick away moisture and fleece or wool on top. Good luck . One other thing I buy those "magic gloves " knit thin cgloves they cost about a buck a pair , keep several pairs imn my pocket and when one gets wet swap them out . The worst thing is wet hands . When it is really cold I have lined deerskins (when it is -40 my hands are warm and with my arthritis that is sooo important)
Definitely invest in a pair of Walz or Carhart bib coveralls. I promise you they are comfortable and easy to move around in and take on or off. I live in mine in the winter and that way I can often get by with out a jacket. I layer my top half-snug tanktop, long sleeved shirt and a hoodie. And I stay toasty warm.
I heard Boggs puts out some nice waterproof, insulated boots that are light enough to walk around in all day. MH bought me a different kind from Murdock's last winter that I love, but they are rather heavy if you have to do a lot of walking.
Gloves? Gosh-I struggle with gloves too. So have all different kinds. None of them seem to work for everything, so I'm always switching depending on what I am doing.
I am thinking some of that thin long underwear tops at lease, like they sell at Jockey..
They have gloves with out fingertips, on the thumb and first finger.. I saw Pioneer Woman had some recommended ones on her gift list she is doing.
I agree, fleece is a girls friend in the PNW.. especially layered.
Keep us posted!
Handwarmers, Costco usually has boxs of them this time of year. Last year we found Toe warmers too! These big boxs of them were only around $15-$18, saved us from freezing during my daughters WAHSET meets.
I have a wonderful light pair of silk long johns, I use them for hunting mostly but they are light enough to put under jeans. Silk is wonderful!For colder weather I have polypropalene long johns, I recomend these!
Wool cotton blend socks! I have some over the calf one that I love love love! You are closer to the new Cabelas then I am(I think), maybe a trip over there for real! Socks LOL. Gloves too.
I am not outside in the barn all day, so I just have my rubber boots and a hoodie and my old ripped quilted red flannel, some fashion statement huh! LOL LOL My Hubby laughs at me LOL
I'm a big fan of long underwear, and of my Mudruckers boots - no hard toe alas. Our barn is unheated, and gets down to 10F or slightly below on some mornings. Our horses go out every day unless the wind chill is below zero. I've had good luck with Ovation gloves - the fuzzy type not the heavy padded ones - they're designed for riding so the feel is pretty good - I can make up feed wearing them and can do and undo blanket straps.
I do layers - sometimes lots of layers - and make sure that my face and head are warm.
I am a huge fan of Carhartt! Seems like all the really good products will cost you a pretty penny, but then they tend to be worth every penny too. I tend to layer, a lot because I get hot and cold depending on what I am doing but I also HATE feeling all bulky and caught in my clothes so like a larger carhartt with a hoodie under and maybe some kind of thermal underclothing (go to a hiking store, they have the kind that will wick sweat and are made to be worked in, not to mention WARM!! Gloves are a PITA!!! Grrr! They are never right.
As for boots, I saw some the other day that looked swwwweeet!....
http://www.uggaustralia.com/ProductDetails.aspx?gID=w&productID=5498&model=Adirondack+Tall
fully lined! I'd just hate to see them get dirty they are so pretty! They come in a shorter version too.
I like Sorrel boots as well...the kind that Snowmobilers use.
I can't give you many cold weather tips, but I can send you warm wishes from Florida! :-)
I just bought some Cuddle Duds long underwear for a horse camping trip we're making to Rutledge, GA because I can't handle cold very well. I heard that they work very well.
When I lived in PA, I used lots of layering. Generally thermals underneath and several layers over them. I also found some really great thermal socks (can't remember the brand though). Like you, I've never spent full days every day in the barn, so I'm not sure how well my gear would hold up after 9 hours of cold. Good luck!
I just found your blog the other day and I have to say that I love it!
I bought a columbia ski jacket that has the two parts that zip together. It's perfect because it's like having another layer. If I get to warm, I just unzip the two parts from eachother and take off one. It's nice too because inside is fuzzy so it feels nice and keeps me super warm.
You've had lots of good advice so far; layering and wearing wicking type material closest to your body.
I definitely make a fashion in the winter. Cuddle Duds, flannel shirt, jeans, vest, bib overalls, wild rag, Carhartt jacket, Bogs on my feet (they even have spur ledges and are narrow enough to fit in my stirrup), a wool railroad cap, and a mish mash of gloves.
Gloves are the hardest for me. I've yet to find the perfect solution. But, I'm going to try some of the suggestions above.
If I can keep my toes and hands warm, that's the key. But, when it's been -20, which you won't see, lots of hot coffee sure helps!
Lots of great suggestions already, and I concur with layers, layers, layers. I grew up working in a barn in PA, where we have cold but often humid winters. I wear the following to the barn: 1) turtleneck (under layer of long sleeve tee or long underwear if frigid) (2) heavy weight polar fleece (there are different weights, look for a wind blocking one) pullover (3) down vest (adds warmth w/o weight (4) LL Bean three season jacket or Carhart w/hood (if it is really frigid I will swap out for a longer down jacket to cover your lower back/kidneys but it has to be REALLY cold)
Also, most of your heat escapes through your head, so consider some type of hat. When it is really frigid, I don an UnderArmour thingy that is convertible from a simple neck gator to a full blown head and face covering (only your nose and eyes are visible).
I hate wet feet, when my feet are wet, I'm done. Look for polarfleece socks. They are great for cold but humid weather, as they wick the moisture. Its not very stylish, but you could put galoshes (Tingley's) over your regular boots to stay dry.
Also, because this stuff gets expensive (just to wear to the barn), can you fit in kids sizes since you are so teeny? I do and it saves me a TON of money on Carhart stuff. Don't know if this will work since you are tall, but might be worth looking into.
Great suggestions! The serious trainers/handlers I've ever known around here wear Carharts. Period.
I don't have any Carharts, I layer. I love layering. I buy the silk long johns and zip-T shirts--they're long sleeved, silk, and they zip up for turtleneck or zip down in a V-neck. I have four or five of those Zip-t's. I go with the LLBean Field Coats--they're waterproofed (but I don't know how much). They have them with the liners--I have the wool liner, but the other one is rated for colder weather.
I just bought some barn boots that you saw on my blog, but I wouldn't recommend them for all day work. And gloves, all of mine have holes in the thumbs, too--so I'm heading out to shop for some as well.
Good luck! (PS I think Carharts are worth the investment).
Paint Girl, You are so funny! Your skinny arms! Your skinny butt!!! You ARE very skinny! But most skinny people I know are very fit. I bet that's true of you too.
I LOVE that you have boot dryers!! That sounds key!!
I hate being cold. I hate how it makes my shoulders hunch and my mood grow cranky. I have a pair of Ariat boots that I have had for 3 years now. They do not leak ever, and I have put them to the test many dozens of times. But they aren't warm at all. So, I always, always always use the Toe Warmers that you stick in your shoe and create heat for 7 hours. I could not have a horse in the winter without them. Even when I wear my winter Mountain Horse boots (which are supposed to keep you warm in subzero temps and never do), I must have the Toe Warmers in my boots. If I don't have them, I'll be too cold to do anything and will end up going home.
Another thing I used last year which kept me warm as toast were some bulky winter riding pants. But were they warm. No matter what the temps, I was out on the trail with those on. And I was never really cold!!! However, you will not like them because they are so bulky. They made me look like I was wearing a fat suit. And it is not easy to walk around in them. Bill would see me lumbering up his driveway each Saturday in my big puffy pants. But I bet you could find something slimmer that is quite warm. Have you ever looked at EquiShopper? They have lots of streamlined winter pants for horsewomen! Finally, I always wear down jackets. Even an inexpensive down jacket I have found is warmer than expensive polarfleece!! However, polarfleece is so soft and snuggly and easy to wash, most people probably like that better for barn work.
your new job sounds like a ton of work! But also, very rewarding!
When I worked in a barn all day I could not live without my un-insulated carhart bib-coveralls. They were just warm enough that I didn't need a coat; just a long sleeve shirt, and since they didn't have sleeves, I still had full range of motion. If they got wet, my jeans underneath stayed dry.
For for feet....muck boots. yes, I know they are spendy, but the last a long time and your feet will stay dry and warm.
There are many good suggestions from your readers. I second polypropolyne thermals, polar fleece, and layering. A hat is also another way to keep warm. Stay away from cotton next to your skin because cotton has no wicking ability and just gets wet. I always carry an extra pair of socks and change my socks halfway through the day.
Boot dryers are awesome! There are 4 dryers in the house, two in the shop and one in the office. If my boots aren't on them my slippers are. It is so nice to put warm slippers on my feet.
Mountain Horse makes a pair of winter riding breeches that are slim, fit well and keep you warm. My vet has a pair that she lives in during the winter and even uses them for snow machining and dog sledding. Check out Equine COllections (online) for the best prices. I have a pair of the bulk ones that I like but I'd rather get the other ones.
Gloves are a PITA. If you find good ones let us know!
This post has me thinking that they way to earn a buck in the horse world is to invent some kind of good gloves!! lol... Hmmm!
AHCM--you got that right! Invent some where the thumbs don't rip out and I'll be your first customer--also slim design and warm. Good luck with that one!!!
Oh, YES, somebody PLEASE invent some decent gloves!!! I wear neoprene when I'm gonna be wet and don't need fine motor skills (washing horses, riding in the rain) and fingerless wool when I need to be able to buckle or unbuckle, etc. Still not perfect.
Most gloves that fit my long skinny fingers are too long in the palm, or have mondo fabric from the finger-seams so I can't bend my fingers. Bah.
My mom is currently knitting me some long fingerless gauntlet gloves--soft non-itchy wool nearly up to my elbows and over the first joints of my fingers (and thumb). I have high hopes for that.
I'm also a Carhart bib overall fan. It's what I wear outside all winter, although not for riding. I have fleece lined breeches and if it's really cold, will put thermal underwear on under those. I wear wool socks with my Sorel boots for working. I have lined Ariat boots for riding. I think my gloves are Ariat's too. I only use them for riding or things I need dexterity for. If I'm just shoveling, I use mittens as gloves never seem to keep my hands warm. What I wear for a jacket doesn't seem to matter if the stuff underneath is warm. Turtleneck of course with a wool sweater over that. If I'm riding, I tend to take the jacket off anyway.
I think that silk Long underwear are warmer and they are not as bulky under your clothes. Sounds like you need a good pair of muck boots for giving baths. I think ear muffs could come in handy on windy days. Don't for get to have plenty of kleenex on hand for those cold runny nose days! You could ware roping gloves under some real sturdy work gloves to be warmer!
Oh girl you are going to get so cold this winter!! I never even thought about that for you... The only thing I wear is coveralls, and my insulated/waterproof boots!! They are great but not steel toed however they are pretty hard toed, Itasca is the brand...
Hope you get it all figured out!!
I live in my carhart bibs in the winter. I also have a pair of fleece lined jeans (hunting stuff) that are wonderful. Stay warm!!!
We are here in Pennsylvania and it is freezing all winter. I layer tops and long underwear and then jeans and then Carhartt coveralls. They are warm and I can band and move around in them. I even ride in them, but I look like an absolute nut. They are so huge and big and bulky. I also wear Sorrel boots which I ride in to and they do fit in the stirrup, but it probably isn't the safest situation. I am looking into new boots for this year. I ordered Ariats, but they didn't come - backordered or something. I thought that was a sign that maybe I should try something else! I have to get the Toe Warmers that Baystatebrumby is talking about. I used them years ago when I worked for a large animal vet and they really worked. Good luck! Man vs. Nature - it is a constant battle to keep warm!
I swear by my Muck Boots! They keep my feet almost too warm when I'm wearing wool socks.
As far as jackets go, I used to live in Maine and I swear by goose down! I have an old goose down coat for the barn (complete with holes from a puppy chewing it and being grabbed by a horse) and a newer one for non-barn times.
LBean has a lot of cold weather wear and while it can be spendy (the functional stuff is pretty reasonable, however), it's very high quality and if a seam rips, even in ten years, send it back and you'll get a new one!
Yep, it sounds like a work-related shopping trip is in order for you. Forget those stuffy dresses, pant suits and heels, you need some tough, hard-working, functional barn wear! :D
My favorite warm coat is my work issued coat from my old job with Mesa Airlines. It will keep me toasty warm even in minus zero temps, such as we have here in the mountains. It is a hip length khaki colored coat with a detachable hood (which I never remove), lots of great useful pockets and is lined in thick thinsulate. I can;t say enough about this coat. I've had it for more than 12 years and both me and my hubby wear it when going to the barn. It works hard and lasts. I think I'll cry if it ever falls apart. bah!
For socks, only wool will do. They wick away moisture and they keep you warm even if they do get wet. They are worth their weight in gold. You NEED a few pairs of wool socks with you working outside.
I don't know why those barns are so much colder than outside, though. My own barn is a refuge in winter. Even though it's open on one side it still stays fairly cozy because it blocks the wind (The wind is the worst in the winter...gusts up to 50-60mph. brrr!).
I have no advice on boots or gloves, though. But I'm sure others will. Stay warm my friend. I think it's so awesome that you are doing a job you love :)
~Lisa
As far as boots go, I can spray down my Ariats after splattering mud on them, and the water doesn't seep through. I just constantly buy gloves. If I'm in a store and there's a glove rack, I try on every pair until I know which one fits best, and I buy it even if I don't need any gloves, because within a few months I know that all my gloves will have holes in them. My latest favorite pair a Thinsulates. They are not so bulky that they prevent me from hooking and unhooking buckles on blankets, but they keep my hands warm in the winter time. They also don't overheat my hands, so I can wear them in the summer too.
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